What denomination are you?

I totally agree!! It saddens me that people find so many reasons to seperate from that.

 

Very very true

 

You know what bothers me the most? When I think of the fact that after thousands of years, and all that mankind has accomplished, we are still hurting one another. I just don't understand it. We are the only animals that do the kinds of things that we do, both for the good and for the bad. I can't imagine that happiness on Earth will come until people wake up and stop being caustic.

 

Jackie, were you at my church this last Sunday? That is exactly what the sermon was about!!! :lol:

For the record, I figured out that most Bible or non-denominational churches are considered Evangelical, I think. Glad to know we have somewhat of a name.

 

Happiness will never exist on earth, not as you mean. It can't, because of the sin nature. Individuals can change through the power of God's grace, but over all, the world will only get worse, not better.

 

Brillantly put! Sad..but oh so true.

 

That's the conclusion I've come to, as well. It is sad indeed. It's a scary world to be raising children in. I'm just glad I can spend as much time with ds as possible, and that in our home, there will be peace and love.

 

I dislike denomination crud.

I believe in God and his word and everything it says in his word. I grew up free Methodist, also went to united Methodist and now attend a Mennonite church.

I go where God leads me, but claim no membership in a church or denomination. Just a relationship with Christ. One where I spend time with him each day.

 

I am a Christian. plain and simple!

here is my opinion : denominations are to church, what cliques are to high school lol

We just joined a nondenominational church a couple of weeks ago. I grew up Southern Baptist, I also went to a nondenom-Charismatic church in high school, I also attended a Church of God (cleveland) and Disciples of Christ, and visited various other churches in the last year or so.

I have differing beliefs though than some I even attend church with but that is ok, I love them! In the past year, I have come to believe in Biblical femininity (ahem, might I say that I am an anti-feminist? lol) I believe in traditional gender roles and submission, and I don't believe women should be preachers or should teach men (ok ok, please don't throw that shoe at me!lol) Around the same time, I also started dressing modestly (skirts/dresses only) and started headcovering (I am the only one in my church who does this).
I don't go around telling people they have to do what I do, but it has been a real blessing for this former feminist and tomboy What each person decides to do, is up to them and God

 

That is awesome. I agree so much with you. I do not wear skirts and dresses though or head-cover. I do dress very modestly and wear my hair up in church.

 

I probably agree with you a good deal, too. Our church is now sharing the building with an Apostolic Church. We had a joint service a while back. The Apostolic ladies all have long hair and dresses. Well, one of the neighborhood people thought I was one of the Apostolic ladies, because my hair is rather long, and I happened to have on a denim skirt, lol! I do tend to wear skirts a lot, especially to church, but that's my choice.

 

I am a feminist. A stay-at-home, homeschooling, church going and even headscarf wearing feminist! For me feminism means supporting women in the choices they make in taking control of their lives. If what you decribe has been your concious choice, I'm all for it.

 

I have no problems if people choose any sort of feminism (I know that there are varying degrees), that is their decision, and I totally respect that.

like I said I believe in biblical submission, which is NOT a woman being a doormat or a slave (which I have been there done that, too)but its a mutual submission. And sometimes its hard to bite my tongue, but it helps my husband loves God with all his heart, and I know that he has my best interest at heart

I believe that men and women are different for a reason, and neither is weaker than the other, but they are created to compliment each other, and each has strengths and weaknesses

 

Actually, I've found submission to be very freeing. I don't have to worry about all kinds of stuff that I worried about before, I dump it on him, and just trust that he'll deal with it. When he says no to something (which doesn't happen often!) I trust he has my best interest at heart. Plus, it's an incredible example to my children.

 

That just made me sad My hubby is my very best friend in the world.. I could never imagine "dumping" everything on him to deal with. He is my companion, he never makes me walk in his shadow, instead he places me one step ahead of himself, and I step one step back and walk by his side. We see each other as equals and we each have our jobs in the family. He makes the money and I pay the bills, he cares for the yard and the repairs on things, and I care for the kids and keep the house running. Hubby is my shoulder and support beam when I need it, and I am his... I can't imagine saying.. it's your problem, you deal with it.

I have tried to stay away from this thread, because my beliefs are so different than 99% of people here on the board, but I just couldn't sit here and not say anything. I litterally have tears in my eyes.

 

Warning...I am going to sound overly simplistic..lol...

I think that it doesn't matter what I think. If I think something different than what the Bible teaches than I AM WRONG. I need to conform my thinking to that of Chirst. He is perfect, I am not. So, regardless of how I feel about a woman's role, I follow the biblical example because that is the right way.

Submission is not oppression. Submission is a beautiful thing. It is a picture of a Godly relationship between creator and man. Submission is freeing in my opinion. And even if you disagree...do what the Bible says and like it. Ok? LOL. LOL.

 

I am not trying to speak for Jackie...but I don't think she meant it in a disrespectful way. My dh is my best friend and everything you mentioned above. My submission to him is me honoring him and FIRST and foremost the Lord. My dh and I have different roles set by God. I don't presume to tell God he didn't know what he was doing when he assigned those roles. :love:

 

Oh, dear! I TRUELY apologize!!! I guess I just didn't pick my words carefully!!!

My husband is the greatest guy in the world. He is my best friend, and I feel so treasured by him! I would never intentionally say or do anything to show him disrespect. I am so blessed to have him!

When I said I "dump" on him, it was a very poor choice of words. I meant that I'm quite willing to let him take the leadership role in most matters. Even with homeschooling, I will consult him on curriculum choices, etc. We DO work as a team. He gets my input and pays it very careful consideration. But where I am answerable to him, he is answerable directly to God. The buck stops with him. I trust him to pray about and make the decisions.

We are currently discussing a major change in our lives. He is praying about it, we've discussed the long-term ramifications, how it will effect us and the kids, our parents, etc. He has asked me to be in prayer with him on this. But the ultimate decision is his. And he also knows that, regardless of what he choses, I'll be behind him.

So again, I do apologize for my poor choice of words, and giving the wrong impression!!!

 

It's ok Jackie.. I guess maybe I took it too litterally.

In our family I am the decision maker for the most part. Hubby hates to be "in charge" where I have a natural leadership quality that balances us completely.

 

This is us too, to a certain extent, but I also see where Jackie is coming from as well. Hubby likes that I am more a natural leader, we balance each other out real nicely. There are places though where he is more knowledgable and makes a better decision, but there are areas where I am more knowledgable. Actually, when it comes to almost everything, we make the decisions together. If one of us really disagrees with something we talk it out and listen to each other.

I think it really depends on a person's definition of submission. Some people assume the worst and picture a wife saying "yes, dear, whatever you say dear", which really isn't the case I do believe. If my husband truly objects to something, I listen to him and ultimately I go along with his decision because I think if he thinks that strongly against/for something, it must be for a reason. Doesn't happen often, as I'm spoiled,:lol: but I wont go back and do something I know he so strongly disapproves of because I would consider that selfish and disrespectful to my spouse. Same goes if I truly disagreed with something, he would never do something I strongly didn't approve of either. If one of us feels that passionately for or against something, we understand it must be for a good reason. We have wonderful communication I must say, and I really treasure that in our marriage because not everyone has that. I wouldn't call it submission in our case, more like an equal respect for each other, which I think ultimately what submission is...respect. That's my definition anyways. LOL