I thought I would start this thread going again with the subject line letting people know what it's about. I just put up our wall timeline. It's in a very visible and open area in the upstairs hallway. The kids are excited about it! I was going to put it in another room where we have our books and stuff, but it's too easy to go by it without focusing on it. Where it is it will be noticed a lot! We have Adam and Eve up, and today we are working on Cain and Abel. Homeschool in the Woods has Jubal and Tubal-Cain on their timeline list. Did anyone else use them? How do you guys fine the extra things you do to make it more interesting? ( Like Jackie, with the lentil stew, and TinaTX and others making cuneiform things.) I did order the Activity book for HOTW, I haven't received it yet though. Please add your history and timeline ideas!!!
Timelines are so much fun to do, and the cool thing is you can add to them as you find out more! We did this last year with a three ring binder, plenty of plain paper and a hole punch. We used colored pencils, magazine clippings, printed up pictures from the internet, the kids drew some pictures in, and sitting back and looking at the progress (the evolution) of modern man was so cool to do! We started with Adam and Eve, included their whole gaggle of children, when the angels took the daughters as wives, then with Seths sons who were the first to use farming and herding, and living in tents and using tools, we used the Bible as a resource, encyclopedias, almanacs, internet, newspapers, etc. And its cool to look at things like the Great Flood and then the fall of Babel, and see the building up of cultures right after that around the world (not just in Biblical places but also Mexico, Asia, Europe, the primitive peoples of Antartica and see these were going on simultaneously as things were going on in Egypt, Israel, and Assyria (modern day Iraq). And we found out the timeline of when the parts of the Bible were written, and the banned books of the Bible and why they were excluded and when, and by whom. And we drew a little flame next to each time Christianity was spread along the timeline, and watched the increase over centuries of the Word being spread around the world, and you know how the end of the world is supposed to be in flames? Well, the 20th century looks like its up in flames! Especially up to now. Our timeline ended up being about 200 pages thick, with new things being added all the time as we find them. Its the good thing about a binder, you can just open it and add more pages. Have fun with your project. Love, Carolyn
Deena, MOH has a discussion group on Yahoo. I lurk there, and often will come across a good idea (such as Esau's Pottage). There are also files there with ideas, etc. Linda Hobar often posts comments, too. Really soon they're having a weekend at a B&B run by a hs'er that uses MOH, where Linda Hobar and Maggie (I forget her last name!) are coming to give workshops all weekend long! (It's in Texas). I do have Jubal and Tubal Cain on my timeline. I think I've finally settled on the distance between dates, which will basically be a bit inconsistant, especially in their books. You can find many pictures on-line. I've pictures I've printed of the ziggurat, pyramids, the palace at Knossos, etc. I use these in addition to the ones I got from Timeline Through the Ages.
Thanks Jackie! It's taken me up to now to finally read up in WTM about this stuff, and now I am finding other places that have the same Bible/history info. The MOH seems a bit expensive to me, but their pictures are great! And when I looked back and found that other e-mail on this started by TinaTx, I found out about Homeschool in the Woods--I really like that site! I got some ideas for the timeline from there. We have almost gotten to the place where we will have something from history, not just the Bible. The kids are looking forward to seeing what happened at the same time in the world as the Bible stories they have grown up with! Me too!
I bought MOH used for $20, which I was pleased with. I tried to look into Diana Waring's stuff, but was frustrated with the lack of info on her web site. So I sent an e-mail to her, asking specific questions way back sometime the end of April, beginning of May. I didn't get a response until September, after I had already decided on MOH.
WOW, how'd you get it for $20? That's a great price! Maybe I should do some more searching! Who is Diana Waring? I don't know that I've heard of her stuff. I'm using some of the figures I got from Timelines Etc. to put up on our wall timeline. They don't have some of what we've done (such as Cain and Abel), so I draw them in the same format those are done, and the kids color in what I draw. Maybe I should look online for more of those sorts of pictures. We are doing the wall timeline, a notebook with copy, dictation and their own writing and drawings of what we go over, and a timeline notebook that they can keep---more on the idea of what you and Tina are doing (since the wall timeline will eventually come down). My younger two did a very good job with creation. They wrote what was created on each day, then drew pictures for each. Not that that's a new concept, but I was surprised by the creativity (appropriate for creation!) in their pictures! It's going to be neat to see all this and more that they do by the end of the school year! This being our first year of doing this, I (and they) are excited about the whole thing! Plus they'll have all this info., done in/with their own hands, for years to come! And just think, if I hadn't have found abcteach, and you guys and now this forum, I wouldn't know about all this! We are happy! God is good!
Ooops, I meant to say THANKS to you all in that last sentence of my previous message, so............. THANKS so much for sharing and helping my family find a beautiful, knowledgeable and fun way to learn about history! I know they'll remember things so much better now!
Deena....... I also use Bible coloring books! They can color the Bible character or event and that is glued in our notebook. I'm very particular about those too since some are not accurate depictions. For example, some depict the ark in the flood with sails,etc, like it was a boat. It didn't have such. It was just a square box. The pictures may be cutesy, but not accurate. I have found that Bible based coloring books work well. Any christian book store should carry them. Also, we are going real slow....on our timeline. For me, I am in the second year of SOTW, but doing first year ancient Bible history just because I couldn't make my mind up how I wanted it done. So I will do some activities to do with the medievel section,(Anybody reading Beowulf?) then spend time with our timeline...So it will be a slow go for us. But I want to post when the idea *pops* in my head, kwim? Another idea we are going to do is we are going to dress up like Bible Characters, reinact the event and then put those pictures in our notebook on the appropriate timeline. We still have *dissension in the ranks* as to WHICH event. :roll: So I told them we can do more than ONE :lol: We will get dh involved in this one, maybe even grandma and grandpa. We have a couple of other families who might like to do this, so I think it should be fun. I think its the perfect keepsake for the children to be in their own timeline! :lol: We don't have any girls, so we don't have any Queen Jezebels or anything! :lol: When the boys think of girl Bible Characters they only think of her! :shock: I'm like how about beautiful Queen Esther or Ruth? Hopefully we can get some beautifuly Queen Esthers' to join us.. Those are my latest ideas!
I got MOH on ebay for around $30 brand new with an additional book to boot. We also ordered the Kingfisher History Encyclopedia (new edition) from B. Dalton (a Barnes and Noble subsidiary) and got the 20% discount......thanks again for that reminder!!!! For anyone else out there, the local manager told me that the corporate policy is that they won't issue homeschoolers their store discount card unless the person has the teacher's union card, but they will give the 20% discount whenever you purchase something for the "classroom", just tell them you homeschool when you go to pay or order.
Now I'm confused! If I classroom teacher went into B&N who WASN'T a Union Member (and yes, they DO exist, though few and far between because the NEA is so powerful!), they wouldn't get the discount? But if a homeschooler walked in, without anything, and said it was for a "classroom" they could? Sorry I"m being so dense! (Not that it would effect us, as DH is an NEA member. (Again, not through much choice of his own; it's practically a requirement for employment!)
You know Jackie, that is the EXACT comment I made when the lady asked me for "my card". Then she talked to the manager and he came and told me their wonderful policy for homeschoolers. After that I never got back onto the NEA subject. Makes you wonder, huh?!
Our Barnes & Noble doesn't have ethat policy, or at least they don't act on it at all. This is a big homeschooling area, and we fill out the form and say that we're homeschooling and they give us the educator's card, then we get the 20% discount. They've never mentioned being being a Union member. I'm glad of that! Hope that policy doesn't go into strict effect, that'd make it harder for some people.
Here's an interesting site I found while looking for ziggurat info. I thought some of you may want to check it out.............. http://www.bible-history.com/
One more post--- Jackie, What did you put for info. on Jubal and Tubal-Cain? Not sure whether to include them or not. I know they were descendents of Cain, and fathers of things, is that why you have them on there? I am trying to find the lesson init for my kids, that's why I'm asking... Thanks!
I believe her big point with them was that Jubal and Tubal Cain were very accomplished men, showing the intelligence of early man. They were included in the "History thru the Ages" timeline, so we pasted them in from that. It says: "Jubal and Tubal-Cain c.5000 B.C. Descendants of Cain, Jubal is known for his invention of the harp and lyre. Tubal-Cain mastered working with iron and bronze." Diana Waring's history stuff is on pg. 568 in the Rainbow Resources catalog I book marded that web page to check out in-depth later. Another place you might want to look at is: www.gospelgazette.com/gazette/2000/feb/page20.shtml We're doing the exodus right now, and it goes through the plagues, explaining how each one was a direct attact on a specific Egyptian god. I found it VERY interesting. Don't try to print it, because it's 17 pages long!!! We broke it up while reading it, but my middle one didn't want me to quit! Also, Adventures in Odyssey has an episode where a boy is sent to Egypt during that time period in the Imagination Station. Go to their web site and do a search for "Moses" to find it. At the end it draws parallels between the Passover Lamb and Christ, due to an interesting twist.
We are going to mummify our apples next week. The kids cant wait. We have begun again with Ancient Times. I can't wait to dig in. B&N here has an educators card and they happily give the discount to home educators. My discount card mentions home educators on the back of my card. The discount is for pre-k and up. Anyone having problems should see a manager. I did have lots of fuss from Borders about a discount there. Tammy
How do you mummifiy an apple? I think that's about where we'll be next week. Is it in MOH, or from another source?
The mumified apple project is from a friend who uses Sonlight. 1. Take 2 apples and quarter them so you have 8 pieces. 2. Number 8 plastic cups, 1-8. 3. Weigh each quarter on a balance, record weight for each quarter, and place an apple quarter into a cup. 4. Mark 1 cup as your control and place aside. 5. Cover apple slice in cup 2 with salt. 6. Cover apple slice in cup 3 with baking soda. 7. Cover apple slice in cup 4 with baking powder. 8. Mix 1/2 c salt, 1/2 baking soda and cover slice in cup 5. 9. Mix 1/2 c salt, 1/2 cup baking soda and cover apple slice in cup 6. 10. Mix 1/2c baking powder, 1/2 c baking soda and cover apple slice in cup 7. 11. Mix 1/3 c baking powder, 1/3 c baking soda, 1/3c salt and cover apple slice in cup 8. Weigh the apple slice daily, record observations on the apple slice, and then place it back into its container with the appropriate powder mixture. If the powder mixture appears moist, replace it. Graph the wiight loss for each apple slice, Which apple lost the wieght quickest? What other material (salts readily available in Egypt) could have been used? The experiment takes a week to 10 days to complete. Now that I've re-read and written this out, "I need more baking powder, and salt and baking soda!" Tammy :roll:
So do you like fill the cup with salt or whatever and "bury" the apple in it, or just put the stuff on the outside of the apple? Did you peal it first? (Sorry so many questions! Sometimes I'm a bit slow!)
Don't peal, bury. I'm listing a link from Newton's Apple on Mummies, How are mummies able to "survive' the test of time? http://www.ktca.org/newtons/13/mummy.html The directions are a little different, (they use some epsom salts) but you might enjoy the details there. They list some good additional questions and ideas. hth Tammy
