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Old 09-29-2010, 08:23 AM
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Singapore vs Math Mammoth

Ok, I think I've narrowed it down to using one of these two programs,
since I'm looking for more of a mastery-type program, and only doing 1 topic at a time.
So which would you suggest we try first?
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:37 AM
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Oh, I am glad you asked this question. I had the same one!
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:05 AM
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I have no idea what Math Mammoth is like, so I can't address it at all. I will say that we used Singapore for my son for a couple of years.

Singapore moves very fast, which was a reason why we chose it. Our son is gifted mathematically [gets it from his engineer dad] and so needed to move more quickly. I personally didn't like the program at all [of course, I'm not a math person, either]. I didn't like the sparse explanation of how to do things, and they were doing stuff differently from how I'd learned. The only teacher edition I could find was horrible looking, so I never even used it.

We ended up using Singapore for the couple of years but moved on to a different program this year. I honestly feel ambivalent about the program. I mean, it worked for my son; he got through it fine. However, I didn't care for the way it was structured nor for its unusual pace. I found their way of doing things to simply confuse the issue and make something harder to do than it needed to be. My husband did say, though, that many of those techniques were designed to help them do it in their heads rather than on paper. So, perhaps a lot of my issues were just that I'm a non-math person who was using a very math-intensive program.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:34 AM
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Do you mind me asking what you're using now?
We used Horizons with my son the last 2 years, and this year we started with it. But within just a few weeks he went from loving math to hating it. I just recently found out that he doesn't like the way is jumps all over the place in one lesson. So I am figuring that a mastery approach will work better for him. I've seen both Singapore and MM and they look like they stick to one topic per lesson. He actually saw the Singapore sample and said he liked the way it looked. I've not yet shown him the MM samples.
So Singapore is advanced and not much instruction, is that right?
Thanks for the help -- some times picking a curriculum is WAY too hard!!! LOL
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:55 AM
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We used what were essentially the 2nd and 3rd grade Singapore books, so I won't speak as to what the program is like earlier or later than those. The instruction, to me, was minimal and not well done. Frankly, I needed a textbook to understand the textbook! LOL They were using methods I had never learned and, at times, couldn't figure out. Again, though, this is a program designed for advanced math users, so I think some of that could be that the program is designed to fit a particular way of thinking that I don't have.

It's not a spiral program, meaning that it doesn't do constant review in addition to learning something new. It has review sections at the end of each unit, but that's it as far as review. I think that appealed to my son as he found Saxon's 1st grade stuff to be too boring [it's a very spiral-based program].

Anyway, we moved him to Teaching Textbooks this year. He tested into the 5th grade in that program, so that's what he's doing. He's over halfway through it already. It's a bit of a spiral program as well, but it seems to be more challenging for him than Saxon was and he enjoys doing all his work on the computer with no instruction for me. Honestly, this was partly a practical decision on our part as well. My daughter has severe math issues, and she needs to have complete attention during math time. This way, he can do his math on his own while she does her math with me.
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Old 09-29-2010, 10:31 AM
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I have done some reasearch recently on MM, read tons of reviews on the internet. They have two programs/approaches: Blue Series and Light Blue Series. The difference beetween those two searies is: Blue Series concentrate on one topic at a time, while Light Blue series are designed to cover a grade curriculum for one year. Both series are mastery math. You have mentioned that you would like to study by a topic - then Blue Series should work well for you. They have a 7 days trial I believe, so you can try for free. It is very affordable. I purchsed yesterday 4th grade light blue, and for tons of stuff payed only 32 dollars, but it is only an electronic version. They have printed books on Amazon, $12.99 for one book that covers half of material, and $12.99 for another half. Plus shipping is expenceive, I believe around $10

How it geos compare to Singapore math I have no clue since I am not familiar with this program, however I have heard so many two-thumbs-up comments on MM that decidd to try - the most I am loosing is $32.
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Old 09-29-2010, 10:32 AM
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We are using Singapore Math for 2nd grade. I bought the instructors manual, childs text books and workbooks as well as the extra practice books. (We rarely use the extra practice and won't buy them next time.) I really like Singapore. I don't find the teachers manual confusing at all and actually have used a lot of the games and teaching ideas because my ds does not do math exactly as I do and I'm okay with that as long as he can get the answer. It does focus a lot on mental math which I think is great and he is actually learning his math facts easier than he did in ps last year.
I have not heard of Math Mammoth so cannot compare the two. My son is strongest in math so Singapore is not too fast or advanced for him. I'd recommend it.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:04 PM
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I just started using Singapore math and so far so good. I wouldn't call it mastery though - it seems more spiral. It revists topics with increasing complexity. Math U See is a mastery curriculum. I have looked into MM, but decided to go with Singapore because I thought my boys would do better with changing from the textbook to the workbook and back again.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:09 PM
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We are using singapore and I really like it. But Math is my BEST subject so the lack of explanation in the text book is no big deal for me. I did not get the teacher's edition, and so far I have not needed it. I know some people feel that is does not have enough practice problems but for us it has been fine.

I think Singapore math works best for parents and children who are good at math.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:25 PM
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Singapore is fast moving. So you either have to supplement or know how to supplement without buying something else. My dh can supplement any math program without blinking off the top of his head..he is a math mind. I cannot do that. However, I love Singapore and regret not using it this year.

I have not tried Math Mammoth but after visiting the site I am intrigued. I may check it out.
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