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Old 08-26-2010, 09:06 AM
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I'm worried about the faith statement for our coop...

I don't know what to do! We are joining (or trying to join) a different homeschool coop this year. I've heard great things about it and we got very excited. However, it's held at a bible fellowship church and they have a faith statement that both parents are required to sign. My husband is Catholic and he said he couldn't sign it because there were a couple of statements that go against the teachings of the Catholic church. I CAN sign it because I was raised protestant and haven't converted. We are raising our kids in an interesting combination... we attend Catholic church as a family and the kids attend religious ed there. They also attend a local ecumenical youth group, and my oldest attends a middle school youth group at a bible church. They go to all sorts of VBS's..... Catholic, Baptist, Bible church.... they are getting all aspects of Christian religion.

DH has no problem with the kids and I attending the coop, but he can't sign the statement.

I'm worried the coop won't let us attend since DH wouldn't sign it. The kids aren't bound to any decisions because they haven't gone through confirmation at any church yet. They are still open to options. I'm the one who will be attending the coop and I signed it.

Am I just being silly worrying? Will they kick us out?? I don't know what to think.

Anyone dealt with this type of thing before?

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Old 08-26-2010, 09:09 AM
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pick me yes, pick me.. it happen to me I sign it dh wouldn't so they wouldn't let us in..
oh well we moved on. I hope its different in your case. good luck. Keep us posted.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:15 AM
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Same thing would happen to us......... we are Christian Scientists..... you know, the evil cult people We don't quite match up with most statements of faith so we don't belong to any homeschool groups. Such is life. I'm just about ready to start a Secular Homeschool group for those of us in this world that are on the fringe of the more privileged masses.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:26 AM
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Sounds more like a conformance group rather than a support group.

We homeschooled because, in part, we wanted the freedom to choose what our children learned and didn't learn. Why work with a group that insists on conformance to their opinion (whether or not we agree with their statement)? They should be supporting our decisions, not undermining them.

What if you join the group and not want to teach creationism, for example? What if you want your children to understand the elements of other faiths? What if you choose to use a secular textbook for one subject? What if they insist that Christians must support a particular political party? What if the church has a strong stance on some social issue with which you disagree?

Forcing you to conform at the outset could well impact your options moving forward. Would they ask you to leave over any of these things? Why should you have to look over your shoulder for any decision you make?
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:34 AM
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Ask them if it is okay to have him initial what he agrees with and then sign to those, instead of the entire statement?
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:08 AM
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Update! I called and talked with the leader of the group. I discussed our situation and she asked me lots of questions about everything. After our discussion she said as long as I could sign the statement and as long as DH had no objection to our kids attending the group she was fine with it! Whew! I feel a lot better now. She said she understood a lot because her MIL is Catholic and her husband WAS Catholic but converted to become a protestant when they married. So she understands the situation from a personal point of view. We had a very nice discussion about how the group is ecumenical and has members of all different denominations. That made me feel much relieved!

BTW I think if this hadn't worked out, Olly's suggestions would have been a great one!

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Old 08-26-2010, 10:09 AM
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I agree with you husband he shouldn't sign something that goes against his beliefs. I also can say that maybe that group isn't for you if they are so closed to not allow other beliefs in.
And starting your own group has been going through my head as well. I find the ONE group in this city is great for activities but lacking on the social aspects. Also during meetings they condemn anyone who isn't a believer in their beliefs. Which kind of goes against the mission statement of all are welcome. Nice people, just sometimes it is hard to keep personal opinions separate from the group.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:36 AM
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Also during meetings they condemn anyone who isn't a believer in their beliefs. Which kind of goes against the mission statement of all are welcome. Nice people, just sometimes it is hard to keep personal opinions separate from the group.
It's understandable that there will be differences of opinion. It's when they codify their particular beliefs that it becomes a problem. Even if you agree will all those beliefs today, what's to stop them adding something new in the future? Requiring a signature is an attitude of mind - control and conformance.
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Old 08-26-2010, 11:25 AM
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I think it is great that they let you join. I also think it is great that your husband was true to his beliefs.

As far as Christian homeschooling groups wanting the member to be in agreement, I am all for that. I wouldn't want my child to attend the co-op classes being taught evolution. So, I wouldn't join a secular homeschool group without really checking out the individual classes. I don't think it is a policy to be mean spirited, it is probably in place to keep everyone on the same page.

We had issues at the coop I belong to, and I am not sure of the exact problems, but they did arise from the statement of faith. We choose what we want to belong to and if it is a Christian group then I would expect it to be supportive of Christian ideas.

I don't think it is mind contol. At any time you can opt out. If they change a rule and you don't agree--opt out. Mind control is where you have no choice.

Also, (OK this might stir up some lovely debate) in heaven we aren't going to be able to just believe however we want. God is truth and we will know the truth absolutely then, and we just won't be able to pick and choose what we like and what we don't like. Is the mind control?

I do think there are a lot of issues that divide Christians that shouldn't. There are things that are disagreed upon that don't really matter in the bigger picture. Should women only wear dresses? Should women cover their heads? Should Christians eat bacon? Is the Rapture going to happen pre-tribulation (my preference), mid-ttibulation, or post-tribulation?

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Old 08-26-2010, 11:31 AM
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As far as Christian homeschooling groups wanting the member to be in agreement, I am all for that. I wouldn't want my child to attend the co-op classes being taught evolution. So, I wouldn't join a secular homeschool group without really checking out the individual classes. I don't think it is a policy to be mean spirited, it is probably in place to keep everyone on the same page.
I agree. I have no problem signing a statement of faith for an option group. I had to sign for my kids to attend the homeschool academy in town. Knowing everyone was on the same page to some degree meant not having to worry about a parent getting bent out of shape because a teacher emphasized a particular agreed-upon doctrine during class.

When I attended a Christian University I had to do the same: sign a lengthy statement of faith and lifestyle covenant. Did I like having to agree to certain lifestyle things (i.e. couldn't socially dance: given that I teach social dance, I wasn't happy about it.). But I CHOSE to attend that school. There are seven other colleges in the immediate area that I could have gone to instead.
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