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Frugalcountrymom
01-03-2008, 12:04 AM
Did anyone tonight see the Super Nanny show with the homeschool family that their teenage daughers were raising the kids?

It was horrible I felt so sorry for the girls. Of course I know the TV show will sometimes show only what they want to show to make it better for ratings but how can they lie about their whole day?

The mom and dad leave to work leaving the girls to raise their three boys and they can't even get them on the phone sometimes. The older girl had rings under her eyes that was no makeup, she looked so exhausted. They were failing their online course and never had time to do it or a social life.

I hope they don't go back to their old ways for the girls sake.

Sam

Deena
01-03-2008, 12:10 AM
Oh mannnn, I wanted to watch that and totally forgot about it! Sounds crazy!

kbabe1968
01-03-2008, 07:49 AM
I couldn't watch. I watched for 5 minutes and just couldn't watch.

I hate when people abuse a system for their own selfish purposes.

I am so glad those girls got help.

How sad. :(

MamaBear
01-03-2008, 07:56 AM
In most of states there must be adult supervision. I would suspect after this show was aired the family might be target for child services contact.

KrisRV
01-03-2008, 08:23 AM
wonderful name for homeschooler again.

Ava Rose
01-03-2008, 09:23 AM
I think the show just made the parents look bad. It seemed to me that the parents simply did not want to pay for child care. Personally, I think for that family the kids should have been in daycare and the girls in school. I think school would be better for those girls if the parents are only using the girls as maids and daycare providers. Not once in the whole show did either parent mention the importance of school or a conviction on homeschooling so I think they were just using their older daughters. Very sad.

4kidsmom
01-03-2008, 09:26 AM
Oh, I saw it and it upset me so much that the mother would not step up and raise her own kids. She was making the girls do so much that the older one fainted during a time when they were supposed to be talking. I think it was because she was so overwhelmed and was scared to say anything to her parents for fear that they would be upset with her.

Actressdancer
01-03-2008, 10:54 AM
What was the plan the Super Nanny came up with? I'm curious what agreement they came to at the end (understanding that they may have no intention of following through).

4kidsmom
01-03-2008, 10:59 AM
Well they had the girls loaded with almost all the chores and taking care of the boys. The plan was to have the parents more involved and doing alot more of the chores and taking cre of the boys and alot more comunication. Because the girls did not feel like they could talk to their parents. My take was the parents just needed to step up and be parents and do their job. I felt so sorry for those poor girls. I will be honest the show made me mad. I didnt like the way the mother responded.

Actressdancer
01-03-2008, 11:01 AM
Was there anything in the plan about Mom or Dad actually staying home to care for their children?

4kidsmom
01-03-2008, 11:06 AM
They were supposed to hire a babysitter.

JenniferErix
01-03-2008, 11:20 AM
I watched.
And dayng it, ya had to get me started.
hahahahaha!

In the end, the parents were told that THEY had to do all the chores that dealt with the three babies.

(My words: The older girls were (Hopefully) NOT in the room when the other children were made, so they are NOT the parents. WHY are they raising these boys>)

The parents, for some reason, treated the girls with such disdain, as if they were lazy, loafing, freeloading roommates... not children with the same rights as the younger siblings.... They act like they are about two steps from"Going after" the girls, in a fighting sense....

Therefore, when JoJo moved all of the child rearing jobs to the parents side, the parents felt it was "Not fair" and that they felt the girls were going to be able to Run wild and run all over them.

Sigh...

I think JoJo should have sent the teen girls on "Vacation" and MADE the parents take the three boys to work with them. If they cannot get work done while at work with the three kids, how did they expect their daughters to get school work done?

And what does that say about how they valued their two daughters? What did it say about how they valued the care that their three younger children were receiving?

Also, they did the "Family Update" either too soon, or nothing has changed.. Did you notice that the older girl, who earlier had colapsed STILL looked warn down with circles under her eyes?

I am HUUUGE on kids doing chores and being productive members of a family, bu the parents resented their daughters as if they were freeloading roommates.. I hate that. Because that means they are essentially abandoned.

Actressdancer
01-03-2008, 11:34 AM
Well, one can hope that Child Services was made aware of this situation and able to step in. I'm usually not a big fan of DCFS, but this is one of the few times that I think they would have been more help than harm.

Frugalcountrymom
01-03-2008, 12:57 PM
Well, one can hope that Child Services was made aware of this situation and able to step in.

I was thinking the same thing those girls needed to be saved. The older girl still looked horrible at the end.

She looked so scared of her parents and that is so wrong. It looked more like the father was trying to change and he was the one I thought would have the hardest time.

The mother though looked like she just wanted to do her photography job and forget about her other kids.

It was just free babysitting and cleaning house service for them. I am all for kids doing chores mine have done it since they were five yr doing certain chores around the house but that was way too much.

Sam

4kidsmom
01-03-2008, 01:10 PM
I agree, the older daughter did still look awful at the end of the show.

My kids do chores around here also. But I agree that was way to much.

I did feel like the dad was the one who was showing some changes, but not really the mom. I hope some changes are made. Think about when the girls leave, who is going to raise these boys then? Imagine how they will turn out if they end up at home alone alot.

Frugalcountrymom
01-03-2008, 01:32 PM
The one girl is 17yr and is at the age where she can leave next year. She is so broken though I hope they don't try to homeschool her through collage at home too.

I hope someone offers her free collage somewhere with room and board, the other daughter is only 14yrs and looks like she still has life in her still but if they continue she will be broken by the time she gets that age too.

Sam

crazymama
01-03-2008, 04:19 PM
Hubby and I talked about this show last night.. I said you know I think the parents don't even deserve to be parents... CPS should take all those kids away.. then hubby made me think:

"Do you realize how lost those girls would be if they were seperated from their little brothers?"

Yes.. I know what it is like to have to care for your younger siblings. My mom worked nights and I pretty much raised my little sister. I didn't have a social life really.. well yes I did, my friends just always hung out at my house. My situation was a little different.. there was only one parent in our home, and in order for her to keep a roof over our heads she had to work nights, but still it was left on me to be the mom that she couldn't be.

Emma's#1fan
01-03-2008, 05:40 PM
I did not watch it. From what I have read, I must say that I am glad. I would have been disappointed.
Patty

Prov356
01-03-2008, 06:16 PM
I usually do not watch SuperNanny, because the behavior of the kids annoys me!

I happened to watch it, because there was nothing else on tv while I was relaxing before bedtime.

This time, the behavior of the parents annoyed me.

The father didn't think he could do anything at first, because he was at work all day.

The mother basically left all the responsibilities on the teen girls. Did not come home when she said she would, and did not call to let them know she would be late. Then when she does arrive, it's fast food for dinner.

To me, that has the phrase "taking advantage of" written all over it.

The mother says it doesn't happen often.

The girls give the impression that it happens way too often.

I would not call what the mother is/was doing home-schooling. The girls are basically left on their own to do the chores, take care of the 3 younger boys (who need a firm hand IMHO), AND try to study, all at the same time. That is what made me angry!

I hope for the girls' sake that things do change. For the family's sake too.

ETA: I wanted to add that though the girls have responsibility of the younger boys, it seems that they can do nothing to make them listen. That would frustrate me!

MamaBear
01-03-2008, 07:12 PM
I didnt watch very much of it because of the child that spent the show screaching! :cry: That was difficult to listen to and watch. I really felt for the kids.

Frugalcountrymom
01-03-2008, 07:55 PM
You know you could tell right away why the little ones were crying as soon as the father started to leave for the day he started to scream and wouldnt stop. They wanted their mother and father, they wanted attention. As the Nanny said they needed routine and some sort of structure. They needed to be stimulated with learning.

It was a cry for help from them as well.

Sam

Prov356
01-04-2008, 01:51 PM
I wanted to start another thread, but apparently you have to have so many posts before you can start a thread...

Last night on Discovery Health, I watched a show about the Dilley sextuplets. I'm interested in seeing how large families run, so I enjoy the programs with the Duggars, and also Jon and Kate plus 8.

This show about the Dilleys was very well done. The 6 kids are now 12 years old, and after most of their lives being in private school, they are homeschooling. There were no slams against homeschooling, not much negative to note. I guess they are homeschooling this year, and they said next year they each will have the option of continuing homeschooling, or going to public or private school. I think they want to treat the kids as individuals and not as a group.

It was extremely encouraging, especially after the SuperNanny episode!

Ava Rose
01-04-2008, 02:00 PM
Again, I don't think the SuperNanny show did any harm to homeschooling. It was obvious the parents are to blame and not homeschooling. Those girls really should be in school. If I were the older girl I would move out and take my sister with me. LOL. That mother was not interested in being a mother. When her daughter passed out it looked like Jo was more concerned then her own parents! In the end the oldest girl said a woman she hardly knows...Jo...was her hero! She has two parents that I am sure were not even in the running for the hero position. Very sad.

I get a kick out of those shows on multiple births. I don't care for that John and Kate plus 8 though. That Kate is so disrespectful and rude to her dh that I can't stand it. I also think she will drive her kids nuts! LOL.

BeckyB
01-04-2008, 06:11 PM
I would love to see a series with the Dilly family. Can you imagine life over the teen years? WOW. It really was a fun show to watch, and they seem to be doing well with homeschooling.

Frugalcountrymom
01-05-2008, 12:57 AM
I have seen the previews of John and Kate plus 8 and I cringe everytime I see the kids smacking each other not sure I want to see the rest. Love watching the Dugger family!

Sam

Prov356
01-05-2008, 08:59 AM
I get a kick out of those shows on multiple births. I don't care for that John and Kate plus 8 though. That Kate is so disrespectful and rude to her dh that I can't stand it. I also think she will drive her kids nuts! LOL.

I agree with you. She admits that she is OCD, and a germophobe. She overreacts to little things like one of the 3 yr old dripping ice cream on her shirt, but she doesn't see that she overreacted.

I still like to watch it though. I like to see how things get worked out, when it happens!

Prov356
01-05-2008, 09:01 AM
I would love to see a series with the Dilly family. Can you imagine life over the teen years? WOW. It really was a fun show to watch, and they seem to be doing well with homeschooling.

I would love to see it also. The only thing is that it was after 11 pm when they showed it here the other night. I usually try not to stay up past 11, but I couldn't sleep, so the tv was on.

Prov356
01-05-2008, 09:04 AM
I have seen the previews of John and Kate plus 8 and I cringe everytime I see the kids smacking each other not sure I want to see the rest. Love watching the Dugger family!

Sam

I know exactly what you mean! I guess that is the result of having 6 kids the same age, going through the 2's and 3's at the same time.

I love to watch the Duggar family also. I have 2 kids, but I just love seeing how large families work. It is amazing how efficiently everything seems to run at their house!

gwenny99
01-05-2008, 10:43 AM
I really liked how super nanny supported their desire to homeschool. She never once intimated that they should be "IN" school to alleviate the situation.

What she did was come up with the family schedule, and it dedicated 4.5 hours in the morning til after lunch for the girls to study. Then then helped watch the kids for about 2 hours, til 4:30 I think, then she told the parents they needed someone to watch the boys from 4:30 til the parents got home and got them to agree to a babysitter so the girls weren't the primary caretakers anymore. She forced mom to be the mom, which is what that mother really needed.

Then she took an attic-style bedroom and converted it into a study for the girls with a desk, their laptops, comfortable seating, bookcases . . . it was great! That way the girls could have the solitude from their siblings they needed to get their work done.

Prov356
01-05-2008, 01:47 PM
I really liked how super nanny supported their desire to homeschool. She never once intimated that they should be "IN" school to alleviate the situation.

What she did was come up with the family schedule, and it dedicated 4.5 hours in the morning til after lunch for the girls to study. Then then helped watch the kids for about 2 hours, til 4:30 I think, then she told the parents they needed someone to watch the boys from 4:30 til the parents got home and got them to agree to a babysitter so the girls weren't the primary caretakers anymore. She forced mom to be the mom, which is what that mother really needed.

Then she took an attic-style bedroom and converted it into a study for the girls with a desk, their laptops, comfortable seating, bookcases . . . it was great! That way the girls could have the solitude from their siblings they needed to get their work done.

I know what you mean! I was kind of waiting for the nanny to say, "this isn't working, these girls need to be in school!" I really liked the converted attic for the school space also!

rmcx5
01-05-2008, 08:01 PM
I've seen the Dilley show before (although DD9 and I watched it again the other night). I think they are a few years older now....I know I had seen that episode before.....no clue if they still HS or not. I think it would be fun to see the life of 6 teens too! I've watched Jon & Kate plus 8....but I do enjoy the Duggars more too. All of them make me appreciate that we only have 3...lol. I'm not the large family momma type....although hubby is one of 6 and would have had more....funny when he can hardly handle our 3 sometimes....but he's been gone so much of their lives (Army deployments)....he agreed to have as many I wanted as a "sometimes single mom"....after we got DS....I was done! 2 girls and a boy work for me:D

Rhonda C.