View Full Version : Universal PreK

12-15-2007, 07:58 AM
For the way I feel about this, it could almost have been posted under Christian issues as a prayer request. *sigh* Our district Superintendent is about to petition the state of Missouri to promote public Pre-K, possibly state wide.

He wants to open the elementary schools for children as young as 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, here is the article (http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=15277), but watching the video (click the orange "watch" button next to title) will give a lot more information. Mothers talking about what a burden it is to have their children at home :roll: Anyhow..... This just really makes me mad.

Ava Rose
12-15-2007, 09:22 AM
I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, for working moms it is a great option. Some have no choice but to work. On the other hand, I don't want it to be mandated...I don't want to have to submit to state laws just to keep my toddler at home. So, if it is simply a choice I have no problem. But, maybe I am missing something. Course, it can be one step closer to mandating it. Personally, I would sooner pay than put my kid in public school at that age but that's just me. I guess I would have to see the place.

12-15-2007, 10:19 AM
The 8 PreKs that are already operating in town do so only for kids the year immediately prior to Kindergarten. However, even for 4 year olds, they have no nap time, no snack time (like a day care would), no play time beyond recess. It's sit-at-a-desk-classroom instruction for the majority of the day. A good friend sent her son last year and by the third month already hated school. He cried every morning. But her Parents As Teachers educator insisted that since he qualified, he needed to go. That he wouldn't be ready for Kindergarten without it. And that bringing him home (allowing him to quit) would set him up for a lifetime of failure in school. She was so terrified to let him stay home that she continued to send him day after day. Now she has a Kindergartener who hates school and cries every morning.

I guess I've just heard Dr. Dobson's take on this a few too many times. And yes, I do believe that this is the first step to mandating preK.

12-15-2007, 12:02 PM
Amie, I'll get right up on that soap box with you!!! "Not ready for Kindergarten"...yeah, right!!! And what did he learn that Mom couldn't have taught him at home? No, it has to do with them losing federal money if he were pulled out!

Ava, I understand moms that have to work. Really I do! But providing school for 2yo's is not the way to deal with that. And so many of the moms who work CHOSE to do so. You live very frugally under one income. How many working moms could be sahms if they chose to live a bit more frugally? But society has them convinced that they "have" to work.

Sorry! That's ANOTHER soap box, I'm afraid!!!

12-15-2007, 02:07 PM
Mandatory school for 2 yr olds! That is a bunch of baloney! Kids need to be at home with their family not in a school- especially if they are going to be at a desk!

12-15-2007, 04:32 PM
You know, I am afraid that one day they will simply send our children home only on the weekends, but only with "Approved" menus and "Approved" activities...

As a child of a woman who left her abusive husband, and jumped into the workforce, I completely loved day care. I find that women who are able to pull themselves up are fabulous women. And finding ways to facilitate them would get my vote.

It's when they make it mandatory for everyone, that I have to disagree.

Not everyone likes the same flavor of ice cream, eh?

12-15-2007, 07:27 PM
Jen, sorry if I came on strong! I do understand that there's plenty of gals out there that have no choice to work, and day care is a necessity. In a perfect world, there would be stay-at-home friends and neighbors to help (Heck, in a perfect world, there wouldn't be abusive husbands!!!). So please don't take offense, because I sure didn't mean any!

12-16-2007, 02:15 PM
Oh Hon!
I did not take offense to anything. Oh my goodness, I really didn't. I am sorry.

I have had a problem lately writing successfully to capture my tone and I kinda bite at it. Sorry! (Red face)

No no no ... I was just saying that I see both sides but wish that they do not make it mandatory.

Guys I am sorry.
I will try better to make sure it translates better.

12-20-2007, 11:18 PM
Thinking that this would or could be mandated makes me want to vomit. I cannot even imagine ever sending my kids off, but at 2??? What is our government wanting a change from democracy to a socialist or communist government? They are MY KIDS, how can they just keep trying to mandate things for them to do ??

OK, maybe I need a soapbox too! :x

12-23-2007, 05:56 PM
I would like to join you all on that soapbox! I can't believe that our "Democratic" government is working on stuff like this! I guess the Bible predicts that near the end, things will get worse and worse---and that surely is happening!!! :(

12-24-2007, 01:24 AM
It sure is scary when you really think about it. It seems that the government is trying more and more to take control of our children.

12-24-2007, 11:52 AM
Well, it definitely feels that way.

I've said it before, and goodness knows I do not want to give them any ideas, but..

How come "They" do not have registered dietitians inspecting our kitchens and menus? Isn't the food that goes into my children, just slightly of a more immediate importance than what is in their spelling book?

I mean that is just ONE idea, that seems to correlate with their reasoning for this womb to the tomb nanny state stuff. (Because we are uneducated dolts)

But didn't we graduate from THEIR education system?
So, shouldn't we be the BEST and the FINEST America has to offer?

This could go in circles for daaaays!

12-24-2007, 11:56 AM
Jenn you are so wise.

the sneaky mama
12-26-2007, 07:16 AM
I too have mixed feelings about this. I would rather see vouchers for women who are in needy situations to pay for quality day care than to see universal preschool. And I've gotten myself in trouble on here before for saying that I don't believe in preschool. ;) I would throw an all out temper tantrum if I had to start filling out paperwork for my twins who are 2 1/2 BUT. . .

For the neighborhood that I live in and the women and families that I deal with. . .universal pk would be/is a good thing. Good pk, in this neighborhood, can be the difference between a juvenile delinquent and a college graduate. And the pk in public schools here (we already have universal pk--it's not mandatory though) is 'good'. . .it's not sitting around at desks all day. Or rather I should say it's better than other alternatives.

So while I don't support the universal pk agenda (which is to lower hte compulsory attendance age) I do support the idea behind public pk.