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Ohio Mom
08-03-2007, 02:19 PM
I thought this was neat. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070803/ap_on_fe_st/17_kids

I think they have enough children for a whole classroom:lol:

Actressdancer
08-03-2007, 02:25 PM
The Duggers are legends around here. I saw one documentary on them a few years ago (they only had 14 or 15 kids at the time) where she said once she got past #8 she didn't notice a difference in her work load.
But they have quite the set up for all those kids. They have three ovens, washers, and dryers. 2 or 3 dishwashers. Several refrigerators. They have a massive garden where they grow just about everything possible to grow in Arkansas. Oddly enough, they aren't really crazy. I mean, you'd have be to a certain level of crazy to have 17 and counting, but they seem fairly normal other than that.

Ohio Mom
08-03-2007, 02:27 PM
I would love to see a special about them. I always wanted a lot of children, too.

Claraskids
08-03-2007, 02:27 PM
I've seen shows of them on the Learning Channel (?) or something similar.
They are just amazing. I couldn't do it; but have a lot of admiration for any parent who can keep it all together. Their children seem very well-mannered and intelligent.

Ohio Mom
08-03-2007, 02:30 PM
I've seen shows of them on the Learning Channel (?) or something similar.
They are just amazing. I couldn't do it; but have a lot of admiration for any parent who can keep it all together. Their children seem very well-mannered and intelligent.

Must be in the genes.:lol:

Actressdancer
08-03-2007, 02:59 PM
Their website is www.duggarfamily.com
The site is crashed right now (go figure) but I'm sure it will be up soon.
As far as how they do it.... they don't.. the other kids do. Michelle has said many times that she only really takes responsibility for the infant until they are weaned. Then they are passed on to one of the older children to be cared for.
And it's easy to keep well behaved mature kids when they have absolutely NO exposure to the outside world. The go to school at home (which is obviously NOT a problem for me...lol), go to church at home, socialize at home, etc.
For the record, I meant normal in the sense of how they talk.. not how they live.

KrisRV
08-03-2007, 03:40 PM
that is so neat.. but I think thats alittle much.. as long as they all are happy and they look it then let the lord keep them coming..

BCMichelle
08-03-2007, 04:34 PM
"As far as how they do it.... they don't.. the other kids do. Michelle has said many times that she only really takes responsibility for the infant until they are weaned. Then they are passed on to one of the older children to be cared for."
When I watched their specials, I did not hear anyone say that she simply passes the children on once they are weaned! The mother looked very involved with the children's day although yes, the older ones did help out. I also saw that they did attend their community church. In one episode, it was stated that for years, they've been coming out of church to find bags of gently used clothes from parish members, left beside their vehicles. They also traveled together and visited other large home learning families.
michelle

SoonerMama
08-03-2007, 05:48 PM
Among the "fun facts" listed on Discovery Health's Web page devoted to the Duggars: A baby has been born in every month except June; the Duggars have gone through an estimated 90,000 diapers, and Michelle, 40, has been pregnant for 126 months or 10.5 years of her life.

I'm not so sure how fun that sounds to me!:lol: Personally, I cannot even imagine having that many kids, but they seem like nice people and they can support them, so I wish them the best.

Actressdancer
08-03-2007, 06:17 PM
The most recent TLC special is the one I was referring to.... She goes on about her "buddy system". She said that she is the buddy for her newborns until she weans them at 6 months. Then she passes them to a new buddy. You'd have to see it to get the full effect, I guess. Though I think she might talk about this on their website.
And they have been meeting as a home church for at least the last year. Jim Bob has a couple of other adults that come to the home to help him teach.
Not really the point, I guess... it's not my family or my cup of tea, but as long as the kids are capable of functioning outside the home, I guess it will have worked.

Jackie
08-03-2007, 06:30 PM
I've a friend with 9 children. She uses something like that "buddy" system. A few years ago, they got into a much-needed larger house. Instead of putting her oldest two girls together in a bedroom and the younger two, she put Girl 1 with Girl 3, and Girl 2 with Girl 4. She did something similar with her boys. She says it's worked very well, almost like a "mentoring" situation.

Jo Anna
08-05-2007, 12:36 PM
Maybe I am just weird or something, but when I have children they are for me & dh to raise and take care of until they are ready to have there own families. Not for my older children to do a lot or most of the work for me while a have another one. I just don't see that as right. But I am not one to tell anyone that there way is wrong, I am just saying that it is not my way nor will I ever do that to my children. A child's job is to be a child for as long as possible not to grow up to fast with having to help raise there siblings.

Frugalcountrymom
08-05-2007, 01:34 PM
I love the Duggar family I have been watching them ever since their family was smaller. The last ones I saw were the ones where they help build their new house and when they went to Disney land. They give me so many great ideas for organizing for my small family.

They are a loving family. I love the Buddy system they use to keep track of everyone it makes sense. The older boy is so sweet he has such wonderful confidence, you hear him talking a lot in the shows talking about his family.

They are an inspiration for Homeschool families everywhere. If you havent seen where they build their house you should...I love their two kitchens!

Sam

JenniBear
08-05-2007, 05:32 PM
I have 4 children. I have had my oldest help me whenever I've needed the help....not so I can sit on my behind doing nothing. I let my children BE children, but they have helped with small chores, changing diapers, getting their brothers a snack or a drink. If there is something that needs to be done and I can get to it (or a kid can wait) at a later time, *I* do it...but there has been many times throughout the years when I have required that my children help out a sibling when necessary. When I was pregnant with Jack, I was in bed SICK with flu....the kind of flu where the thoughts come into your mind like 'this is how people died from flu.' I was there for FIVE days. I don't know WHAT happened in those five days, but dh HAD to work. My dd was 10 at the time. She fixed two meals a day (simple things that used the micro if needed), watched over the children, and took care of simple tasks. I remember faintly hearing her singing Bible verses. What a endearing, sweet memory!

Last month I was in bed, again, for a day. She is now 14. She fed the three children breakfast and lunch, did simple tasks, did homeschool with them, and even made choclate chip cookies! When I finally crawled out of bed (and onto the couch), the boys were gushing with excitement over what a GREAT BIG SISTER they had and everything she had done for them and with them.

I have never required my children to do SO much that they HATED being a part of the family OR resented having a large family. They have pitched in and are wonderful children.

Jo Anna
08-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Jenn,
Your situation and circumstances are different. You only have 4 children and are able to do most of the work, but a family with 16 children there would never be enough of you to do that. Then the older children are 'raising' the younger ones and they are all just children and should not have to do that I believe.
Also I am not saying that some help here and there is a bad thing, but when the children are expected to do it daily I just do not agree.

Frugalcountrymom
08-05-2007, 11:07 PM
I see no resentment of the Duggar children taking on a buddy to help them each day with life in fact it seems they can't wait till they are old enough to have a buddy to help.

I believe Just because children have chores and responsibilities sometimes more then others dosent mean they are not having enough time being a child. Now if that is all they do and have no time to play or go anywhere then I would be worried. The Duggar family go to church with others, field trips, they have other friends, they seem quite happy in their arrangements, they love their large family and seem to thrive in it.

My own daughter and son have more chores and responsibilities on our farm then a normal family would have in the city. Its our choice though and I have no resentment over familys that live in the city that only give their children a few chores or none at all. Its their choice its ok in my book.



Sam

kbabe1968
08-06-2007, 10:17 AM
My SIL has 7....they are all amazing kids. They sort of have a "buddy" but not really. My SIL is an amazing person. Amazing. She and I are the same age (okay, she's 2 weeks older than me)....I cannot imagine her day to day life, but I know she's amazing :D

MonkeyMamma
08-06-2007, 10:52 AM
Everyone is going to have a different opinion on how to raise a family and what is right and what is wrong. Bottom line is what works for you. The Duggars obviously are a very happy loving family and the children do not seem to resent the fact that they have to help out at all. That is what families do - they help each other. I think they are awesome! I would love to have several more children but my hubby doesn't want any more.

Jo Anna
08-07-2007, 09:52 AM
Okay, I watched the show last night and they really touch my heart. So, I will apologize for my comment. They are a wonderful family and function amazingly, gosh better than my family and there is only 5 of us. They are wonderful children and amazing parents.

JenniBear
08-07-2007, 10:17 AM
Happy Birthday, Jo Anna!!!:D

I hope you have a fantastic day!

Frugalcountrymom
08-08-2007, 12:54 AM
Glad you were able to watch them, I love all the shows they have done on them.

Happy Birthday Joanna hope you had a great day!

Sam

Ava Rose
08-08-2007, 10:32 AM
I think the more kids you have the more they need to help out. We live in a very cushy world now. lol. I mean what are families for if not to help out and be there for one another? One family is like a team and should be working together for the same goal. I don't think the kids should be worked to death while mom and dad sit around...however, I don't see that in this family at all. My daughter is 9 and loves to care for her 2 year old sister. She has not real responsibility but she helps out tremendously! My 9 year old even does the dishes and puts her own laundry away! I only have three kids...someone call children's services! LOL. I think the Duggers seems like a great family. I see no wrong in them all working together.

Actressdancer
08-08-2007, 10:37 AM
I guess I have problems with (among other things) the fact that the 15 yo girl and the 17yo girl have to cook lunch and dinner each and every day (per the family's website and the documentaries). The 15yo has to cook lunch and the 17yo cooks dinner.

Aside from the fact that the kids shouldn't have to cook for that many people every day by themselves, it's terribly sexist. The older boys don't have to do any of the cooking.

While I feel strongly about my role as a housewife, teaching children gender specific chores just burns my butt.

Obviously my opinion of this family is very different than most of yours. I am really not trying to start an argument :). Just throwing in my 2 cents...lol.

Ava Rose
08-08-2007, 10:55 AM
Amie..

I agree about the cooking. I think they should all take part. I am not into the gender specific chores. My dh isn't either. He often cooks and will include my son while doing so.

Amie...LOL...that was you that said something??? LOL..I am sorry. that is my brain not working again. I didn't read through all the posts...I thought the Duggers were being critizied publicly for having the kids do the chores. LOL. Sorry!!!! LOL. Guess, I should be doing my chores right now..lol. If it means anything...I agree completely with the girls and cooking. lol.

I guess a large family will have to depend more on the children. However, there needs to be a balance. We do not raise children to make our lives easier. They need to learn responsibilty and basic life skills but they also need to be individuals.

SoonerMama
08-08-2007, 12:57 PM
I thought that was a little much having the girls cook the meals, too. I guess on the bright side, if they only have a few kids of their own, cooking should be a breeze. I think it would be interesting to see how many kids the kids have and how they choose to raise their families. A few years back there was an interesting documentary called "The Devil's Playground" about Amish kids during their "running around time." And then it followed some who decided to stay in the church and some who didn't. I guess that's another thread! Anyway, with 17 kids they are going to have a TON of grandkids even if each just had 2 or 3!

Emma's#1fan
08-08-2007, 01:18 PM
I believe that regardless how many children a family has, whether it is two or 20, the parental roll should be played by the parent because this is their title for a reason. It is perfectly fine for older children to help, but if they are actually "parenting" then I would see a problem in this. God gave children a mom and dad for a reason. There is an influence and specific type of love a child desires that only a parent can provide. Minors do not have the authority or the maturity of an adult and in the long run it will be the children who miss out on parental interaction. I have known people with two and three children. The oldest daughters are the primary caregivers. They bath the younger ones, prepare meals, wash dishes, help with school work, take them to their friends house, and get them ready for bed.
I believe this is a far cry from helping around the house. I also know people with 9 children and the mom is fabulous. I have no idea how she does it but she does.:lol: She is wonder mom! She bathes them like an assembly line. She has their clothes on the beds so when they get out of the tub, they are straight in the rooms to dress. She drives a 12 seater van around town. The one area the older children help out is with chores and things that are just commonly done in large families or small families. To top it off, her husband in the military. Like I said, I have no idea how she does it but she is a great mom. :D
Patty

SoonerMama
08-08-2007, 01:24 PM
I am instantly disqualified from having a ton of kids because there is no way I could drive a huge van without crashing into everything. I am planning on driving a Corolla until I die!:lol:

Seriously, though, I agree, Patty. Sometimes just Mama or Daddy will do, and there is just so much of you that it seems like it would be hard to be there for everyone like you should or wanted to.

Emma's#1fan
08-08-2007, 01:34 PM
I am instantly disqualified from having a ton of kids because there is no way I could drive a huge van without crashing into everything. I am planning on driving a Corolla until I die!:lol:

That is so funny! I usually drive my Marquis. It is a large car. Well, once we had to rent a car and we ended up renting a Corolla. It ran beautifully but I felt so anxious because I was used to a large car. When I was on the freeway, I felt so close to the road.LOL
It seemed as if the trucks towered over me. Which they did. Even in the Marquis.
I used to love small cars. When I was dating Handsome I had a small red car. It only fit two people even though it had two bucket seats in the back. I think they were for looks because no adult could possible sit in the back unless their legs were pulled up to their body.
Then when we got the Marquis, I hated it. It was so big. I thought I would hit someone because it has a wide turning radious. Well, I love it now. Next year I am hoping to get a new one. Handsome wants to get the new Mustang but it isn't reasonable because I drive my sisters children around with me a lot.
Patty

SoonerMama
08-08-2007, 01:39 PM
When I got my first car, it was a Geo Prizm (the Corolla's cousin) and I drove that for about 10 years, but I also used to drive my mom's Tahoe if I was taking a longer trip because she felt safer with me in that. But after we moved away I never drove it and got the Corolla and when we came back to visit I had to drive her car and I was terrified--she moved up to a Suburban by then. I was POSITIVE I was going to mow someone down and I always parked at the very end of the parking lot. My husband teases me and says I need to get a Camry next time, but I am perfectly satisfied with mine. He can get the big car if he wants it so much!!

Emma's#1fan
08-08-2007, 01:50 PM
Handsome's truck is full size and some what high up. He asks me to drive it sometimes and I I do not like to because it is too difficult for me to park in a parking lot. It is a breeze for him and he makes it look so easy.:D
Once he even wanted me to back it up with the trailer attached and I just gave him the look!
He went ahead and did it himself. Driving forward is one thing. Backing it up with the trailer attached is a whole other ball game.LOL
Patty

Ava Rose
08-08-2007, 04:00 PM
Patty....the was a perfect way to describe the balance of having kids help out and parents being the parents! AMEN!