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bugsmommy
05-16-2008, 09:32 AM
Teacher Arrested for Forcing Child to Unclog Toilet with Hands

Posted: May 13, 2008 04:38 PM CDT






A teacher is facing charges tonight and a family is outraged, after a young boy says his teacher made him unclog a toilet with his bare hands.

It happened at an elementary school in Saint Gabriel, which is in Iberville Parish.

Seven year old Trevor Williams says he went to a restroom and clogged it up with too much tissue paper.

An affidavit says Trevors Teacher Julie Landry forced the child to use his hands to unclog the toilet containing human waste.

The child's mother says the student did it because he says his teacher made him.

Police have arrested the teacher, 46 year old Julie Landry and charged her with cruelty to a juvenile.

The Iberville school district says Landry will likely be suspended with pay until the investigation is completed.

And to make matters worse, the child's parents say the other students have been making fun of him, calling him nicknames because of the incident.

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Reason #5,937,363 that I hs dd!! This was in our area....if that would have been my kid, Lord help her!:evil: Now , REALLY~DID THIS WOMAN NOT KNOW ANY BETTER????? Oh yeah, ps is where I want my dd to be.....NOT:mad:

Emma's#1fan
05-16-2008, 12:35 PM
Isn't this what the schools have custodians or janitors for????

kbabe1968
05-16-2008, 02:38 PM
And to make matters worse, the child's parents say the other students have been making fun of him, calling him nicknames because of the incident.


Ohhhh....but come on Bugs.....she NEEDS socialization!

WHAT????!!!???

Cheryl in CA
05-16-2008, 06:02 PM
And this woman is an "expert" in teaching little children. I mean she has a degree and a credential and hours of extra training and this is the best she could do????? Thankfully, I was not the parent of this child or there may have been an even bigger headline.

Cheryl
dd-14 (school of the arts)
homeschooling ds-12 and ds-11

Emma's#1fan
05-16-2008, 06:55 PM
I hear you, Cheryl!!! So much for credentials! They obviously do not take the place of common sense!

Earthy
05-17-2008, 07:37 AM
That's nasty. Poor kid.

Though...did the child do it on purpose?
Did he put all that paper in their just to cause trouble? (not really go to the bathroom)
She then could have taken him to the office and let the principal decide what punishment should be delt.

timkelmom
05-17-2008, 07:48 AM
That's nasty. Poor kid.

Though...did the child do it on purpose?
Did he put all that paper in their just to cause trouble? (not really go to the bathroom)
She then could have taken him to the office and let the principal decide what punishment should be delt.

It doesn't matter if he did it on purpose or not, if there was waste in the toilet he never should have been sticking his hands in there. You are correct in that the principal should have been the one to assign punishment.

I'm sure the teacher is flushed now while the authorities decide her fate. (sorry couldn't resist :lol:)

Emma's#1fan
05-17-2008, 10:00 AM
I agree! Even if it was deliberate, the teacher was still in the wrong.

Actressdancer
05-17-2008, 10:51 AM
I reiterate what's already been said on this: After 4+ years of college learning how to properly deal with children, that was the best she could come up with???!!! She's the "expert"????!!! And we're the crazy ones who are harming our children by not sending them off to such "experts"???!!!

*sigh*

I know this is a case of "one bad apple" and all, but if there are going to be any bad apples in my child's educational life, they are going to be DH or myself. When I stand before the Lord, I don't want to have to answer to Him for what I allowed other people to do to my child, only what I personally did. Does that makes sense?

Deena
05-18-2008, 03:42 PM
Yes, Amie, that makes absolute sense!

Poor unsocialized homeschoolers that don't have credentialed teacher's teaching them----how will our kids EVER survive in the "real" world?!

Ava Rose
05-19-2008, 12:00 PM
How sick! That poor child.

I also agree that it makes no difference if the kid did it on purpose or not. However, I have an 8 year old son and I doubt it was on purpose...they just use a ton of toilet paper sometimes. lol.

The whole things makes me sick because I know my son would have obeyed the teacher. My dd would have also. We teach our kids to respect and obey teachers and then something like this happens. I am just glad the kid went home and told his parents. Wonder what things go on that never get reported. I knew of a little girl how had a potty accident in K, and the teacher made her clean it up herself. What is wrong with people?

JenPooh
05-19-2008, 01:20 PM
I wonder what the whole story is though. Has the teacher told her side of the story? Too many parents take every single word their child says as gospel. If she did in deed "make" him, then yeah that is over the top. But, I wonder what the whole truth is in the story. I'm hesitant to believe everything until the teacher explains her side...not that I'm condoning her behavior, but I'm hesitant to believe every word out of a 7 year olds mouth...especially if he has a history of causing trouble.

kbabe1968
05-19-2008, 03:29 PM
Gotta say, I'm with you on that one!

I mean, if MY kid, in MY home put a ton of toilet paper in the toilet and flushed it and clogged it (for fun not if he/she did it with urine or feces in it) I would make them clean it out and clean it up.

Again NOT if there were excrement in the bowl - but if htey were just sitting there stuffing toilet paper in the toilet!!!

There are two sides to every story...and often only one is told.

cowpokemary
05-20-2008, 02:20 PM
My second grade son is in public school. I signed the "You May Spank My Child if Need Be" form. There are easily 3-4 boys in his classroom that would do such a deed. Each of us should realize that ps teachers have minimal control, many parents will not give consent to the spanking form..........and 9/10 of those kids need to be on that list! Those kids know that nothing will happen to them, they have 0 respect. I would venture to say that the teacher in question has seen and endured the antics/disbehavior/rudeness of this child for many months now. I believe that digging out the potty is just what he needed.....well, a spanking to go along with it also! Parents need to open their brains and stop being so STUPID AND LAZY AND DISIPLINE THEIR CHILDREN! They weren't given to us to ruin.

ps, for those of you read to eat my lunch.....there is a huge difference between discipline and punishment!

kbabe1968
05-20-2008, 02:26 PM
I bet these are the same kids raised by the "mutual respect" camps of parenting! LOL :D sorry, bringing other thread baggage here! :D

JenPooh
05-20-2008, 02:40 PM
My second grade son is in public school. I signed the "You May Spank My Child if Need Be" form. There are easily 3-4 boys in his classroom that would do such a deed. Each of us should realize that ps teachers have minimal control, many parents will not give consent to the spanking form..........and 9/10 of those kids need to be on that list! Those kids know that nothing will happen to them, they have 0 respect. I would venture to say that the teacher in question has seen and endured the antics/disbehavior/rudeness of this child for many months now. I believe that digging out the potty is just what he needed.....well, a spanking to go along with it also! Parents need to open their brains and stop being so STUPID AND LAZY AND DISIPLINE THEIR CHILDREN! They weren't given to us to ruin.

ps, for those of you read to eat my lunch.....there is a huge difference between discipline and punishment!
Coming from a person who student taught in a public school, and whose son goes to public school as well...I say AMEN to that!:cool:

becky
05-20-2008, 03:10 PM
I, too, would like to know the rest of the story. Poor littleJohnnie might be a real rip snorter and this was just the last straw.

KrisRV
05-20-2008, 03:48 PM
Yea, JenPooh I have to agree with you, what really happen. I too would not believe the 7 year old until it was all out.

MonkeyMamma
05-20-2008, 04:28 PM
I'm in agreement that there is probably more to the story and that this kid has behavior issues BUT no matter what he had done in the past that does not mean he should clean out a crap filled toilet with his hands! Even if this kid is the worst, most trouble making kid in the school that teacher still should have known better than to have him clean out a toilet like that. Also I would never ever give a school permission to spank my child. Never.

Emma's#1fan
05-20-2008, 04:44 PM
I agree with you, Tiffany. I am also assuming that since she was arrested, there is probably some truth in this boys story. Yes, there are times when innocent victims are arrested, but not very often. Usually they are guilty or have enough evidence against them to warrant an arrest. Regardless, to have the boy unplug the toilet with his hands is wrong. Imagine how many people use that toilet and the diseases that spread through fecal matter. YIKES!
...and I wouldn't allow the school to spank my child. I do not trust them to educate my child, why would I allow them to physically punish them. Especially since they have to touch my child's rear in order to do it.

LittleSprouts
05-20-2008, 11:20 PM
I reiterate what's already been said on this: After 4+ years of college learning how to properly deal with children, that was the best she could come up with???!!! She's the "expert"????!!! And we're the crazy ones who are harming our children by not sending them off to such "experts"???!!!

*sigh*

I know this is a case of "one bad apple" and all, but if there are going to be any bad apples in my child's educational life, they are going to be DH or myself. When I stand before the Lord, I don't want to have to answer to Him for what I allowed other people to do to my child, only what I personally did. Does that makes sense?


I agree with your reply.

JenPooh
05-21-2008, 07:42 AM
Tiff, I agree with you too. The actual cleaning out the toilet I don't see as any big deal, but cleaning it out with feces in it with his hands....that's over the top. You don't know what kind of diseases are lurking in there. Perhaps having him clean all the toilets out within the school like the janitor would, would have been more appropriate.

I also wouldn't let someone else spank my child. However, I don't NEED to because I discipline my children. They are well behaved for other pople because I do my job. Some parents sadly do not do their job. I have had plenty of preschool kids who needed a firm whack on the tush. If it would have been legal to spank them, I would have.

ETA: I am just wondering what is all "truth" though. Did the kid stick his hand in the toilet on his own and run out of the bathroom screaming to get the teacher in trouble? Those things, and impotant details are what I want to know before jumping to a conclusion. Kids are just too smart and think of ways to frame others these days. I just wont believe every detail until thre are more facts out there. That article didn't give many and it leaves way too much room for interpretation and guessing.

Ava Rose
05-21-2008, 09:45 AM
Good points, Jen. We can't always assume the teacher is the monster. We don't know the whole story. I suppose the teacher may have told the kid he would have to clean it out and the kid may have misinterpreted. I don't know. Sounds a bit unlikely...but we cannot always assume the teachers are at fault. My fil was a teacher for many years in the inner city. He had many female students offer to sleep with him for a grade. Not saying that he isn't responsible for his own actions...please no...not saying that. Just saying that sometimes the students aren't so innocent. He even knew of a girl who claimed sexual harrassment of a teacher and lied. So, it happens on both ends.

homeschool2boys
05-21-2008, 10:18 AM
If the teacher actually did it, then she deserves some jail time and to be sued by the parents. There are many diseases that kid could get from playing in human stool, especially from a public bathroom, not to mention parasites that he could get. Its a health risk to stick your hands in human waste. Not to mention the emotional trama for being the kid with his hands in the potty.

I think if a teacher did something like this it is akin to child endangerment and abuse. Think about it, if we as parents did something like that the state would call it abuse and likely remove our kids from our homes. I think if she did it, she deserves all she gets and then some.

NHMom
05-24-2008, 09:28 AM
This is a sad story. I feel bad for the child. I know there are malicious kids out there, and I know children don't always tell the truth, but I also know that children will clog up toilets by accident.

I can't post the link but here is one report from the local newspapers. This is from the Channel 9 WAFB Baton Rouge website.

ST. GABRIEL, LA (WAFB) - Just one year after joining the Iberville Parish school system, an elementary teacher may be out of a job for a reason that could turn your stomach. 46-year-old Julie Landry was arrested Monday. She's accused of cruelty to a juvenile. WAFB's Tyana Williams talked with the parents and student who are making that serious charge.

Seven-year-old Trevor Williams says he used the restroom at school, but used too much toilet paper and stopped up the toilet. Trevor's mother says what the teacher made him do to unstop it is not only disgusting, but unimaginable. "Trevor, you go up in there and you unplug it. Then, told him next time, if you do it again, she gonna make him pull it out with his teeth," says Alfrieda Williams, the victim's mother. Williams is very upset. She says last Wednesday at East Iberville Elementary, where her son goes to school, the unthinkable happened. "I made the toilet overflow with toilet paper and poo," Trevor says.

The seven-year-old says his first grade teacher made him unstop the bathroom toilet at the school with his bare hands. An affidavit we obtained states that Trevor's teacher, Julie Landry, intentionally forced the child to place his hand in a toilet containing human feces and urine. However, that's not where the embarrassment ends. "S--sssy (pronounced Essy) hands. Here comes sssy hands," says Michael Williams, Trevor's father. He says that's what the kids called his son the next day.

Because of the incident, St. Gabriel police are charging Landry with cruelty to a juvenile. Police arrested her Monday morning and she was booked into Iberville Parish Prison in the afternoon. A short time later, her parents posted her bond. Neither she nor her parents had anything to say. Landry and her mother both tried to hide their faces from our camera.

Landry is what's called a teacher practitioner, which is part of an alternative teaching program. Her future is being discussed at Monday night's school board meeting in Iberville. The Iberville superintendent says Landry will likely be suspended with pay until they complete their investigation. However, at least one board member wants to terminate her. We'll let you know what happens.